We actually wanted to talk to Johanna Leissner about her European climate project “Climate for Culture”. This turned into a discussion about the external impact of conservators. An interview. “Conservators are seen as obstructionists” Who came up with the idea for this project? Johanna Leissner: The idea came from me. I worked in the European Commission for many years and have done a lot of […]
We actually wanted to talk to Johanna Leissner about her European climate project “Climate for Culture”. This turned into a discussion about the external impact of conservators. An interview.
“Conservators are seen as obstructionists”
Who came up with the idea for this project?
Johanna Leissner: The idea came from me. I worked at the European Commission for many years and advised many applicants on the topic of “cultural heritage research”. As part of the sixth EU framework research program, a smaller project was funded that researched the effects of climate change in outdoor areas. When the 7th Research Framework Program started, there was a call for a large-scale project on the effects of climate change on cultural heritage. I had always been fascinated by the topic and realized that I wanted to do research as well.
In your opinion, what tipped the scales in favor of your project?
It was the first combination of climate modeling and building simulation that we wanted to use to look into the future. No one had ever done this before – not even for the normal building sector. We looked at both the outdoor and indoor climate and future energy requirements up to 2100 and, for the first time, also recorded the economic effects, i.e. a kind of “Stern Report”.
Is cultural heritage research not recognized enough in Germany?
Yes, today other countries are overtaking us in this field. But 20 years ago it was different. In 1984, the visible consequences of acid rain prompted politicians to take action. Chancellor Helmut Kohl was particularly committed to cultural heritage research and initiated the BMFT’s “Glass and Stone” program. Over 15 years, 450 million DM were distributed here. This program was, so to speak, the blueprint for the EU, which made funds available for the first time in 1986.
Do we need a new natural disaster for public funds to be made available for cultural heritage research?
Actually, yes. As bad as that is. Because today everything revolves around innovation. And unfortunately, conservators are still seen as obstructionists in this respect. But at least we managed to get research into the preservation of our cultural heritage included in the EU’s Horizon 2020 program – the Association of Conservators has given us a lot of support here.
You can read the entire interview and detailed information on the WUFI® Plus and HAMBase simulation programs used in RESTAURO 7/2014.
-> The research project “Preserving collections: Temperature Control as a Means of Preventive Conservation” examines interactions between climate, room envelope and object and looks at the temperature control systems that have been installed in numerous museums over the past 30 years.
A conference volume entitled “Temperature control – contributions to the current state of research” has now been published for the launch event on November 12, 2012 in the “Contents – Projects – Documentation” series of the Bavarian State Office for Monument Preservation, € 13.90. The results of the research project will be presented at the end of 2015.












